It will come as no surprise to those of you who keep up with my reviews here that I’m a Glock fan and a practicality fan, and habitually measure every pistol I shoot against a Glock; either directly or subconsciously. Given that few pistol can match Glock’s simplicity, reliability, and size/weight-to-capacity ratio it’s hard to consider recommending most pistols over a similar (but superior) Glock model. This time, though, I’ve got little to argue against. The Sig P365 does what it does better than either the Glock 26 or the Glock 43. With one caveat.*
I guess I’ve summed up my review right there. Okay, there probably is a reason to continue reading and my positive assessment of the 365 is not without dissent, but Sig got some things right here that can’t be denied. I spent part of this month shooting and getting familiar with the Sig P365 and this is what I found.
Why Consider the Sig Sauer P365?
The Sig P365 is a purpose-made concealed-carry pistol. It is also…the work of gypsies, as it takes a frame and slide that are either the same size or SMALLER than that of the Glock 43 (a single-stack gun) and adds 4 rounds to it. And it does it in a way that is more comfortable to hold and has a better trigger.
So you might consider the Sig P365 for its impossible sorcery of improved capacity and grip comfort over all competitors or perhaps for how it logically allows you to carry an 11-round, 9mm pistol that disappears onto your waistline as almost no other gun. Or perhaps you might consider this one because it’s a Sig Sauer pistol, known (with a cringy exception or two *cough*P320*cough*) to make excellent firearms.
Now, about that caveat I mentioned. Despite reports of issues with this pistol, I experienced no issues when running the gun through a couple hundred rounds (a gun that had 2,200 rounds through it already) and since this is a first-impression and shooting review, I will merely report on my experience.
Sig Sauer P365 Specs:
- Caliber: 9mm
- Length: 5.8 “
- Height: 4.3” with flush magazine
- Width: 1”
- Barrel: 3.1”
- Trigger: ~6 lb.
- Sights: XRAY3 Day/Night Sights (3-dot)
- Weight: 17.8oz. w/empty magazine
- Slide: Stainless Steel, Nitron finish
- Capacity: 10+1 (1 flush mag, 1 extended mag) – 12-round magazine available
- MSRP: $599
Shooting the P365
The first time I shot the P365 I tried to use my normal grip, with a high-forward support hand. I left not liking the experience because the slide-lock lever painfully abraded my support-hand thumb knuckle at the palm. Shooting it was genuinely uncomfortable. It later occurred to me to augment my grip so that the thumb knuckle was not in contact with the lever. This grip proved to be both effective and comfortable.
I came to enjoy shooting the little pistol and had no problems or difficulty running the gun; inserting mags, getting a grip, firing, ejecting the mag, locking the slide back, etc… The controls seem to be well located for my medium-sized hands and perfectly functional to what I’d expect. Frankly, I was expecting difficulty and never encountered any.
In one session I went back and forth between my Glock 43 and the P365, shooting groups at various ranges. I used my normal grip with my G43 and the altered grip with the P365. I was surprised to see that at every distance, the groups with the P365 were half the size of the Glock 43 groups. Yes, that is anecdotal and I am not quite sure what to attribute this difference to, but I believe it is the better trigger on the Sig. Also the sights on the Sig seem a bit more precise.
I’ve read where the P365 is rated for +P ammunition, if you care about such things. The average defensive 9mm round is perfectly effective without any added pressure so I’ve always been against +P ammo. It’s possible that +P matters in a tiny gun like this, with such a short barrel, but I confess I don’t at this moment know where performance would necessitate a +P round.
Comfort, Controllability, & Capacity
As I mentioned earlier, once I changed my grip, I found the P365 to be quite comfortable to hold and to shoot. The grip is actually quite small and would be excellent for people with smaller hands.
Generally speaking, it’s a tiny pistol so shooting 9mm from it means it’s going to be snappier than a mid-sized pistol. That said, I found it very easy to control—even with a modified grip—and easy to make quick follow-up shots. This is especially true when I was using the extended magazine, where I was able to get my whole hand on the grip. I still find it amazing that this short, thin, little grip can hold a magazine with 10 rounds. It seems impossible, yet here it is.
Components & Features
The slide is a mere 1” wide and it has good serrations both fore and aft. The stock sights are very nice, with tritium inserts front and rear (mostly invisible in daylight, so you get a blacked-out rear) and the front dot is surrounded by a day-glow-green ring for daytime high contrast. I found the sights to be very easy to pick up and to use for easy accuracy.
As do all good pistols, the P365 has no extraneous external controls; only a slide-lock lever and a takedown lever mar the otherwise clean design. The trigger is plastic and does not have a safety-tab rib, making it a bit more comfortable on the finger pad than most striker-fired pistols’ trigger shoes. The trigger action is very nice for a stock trigger. It has some takeup, a clear wall, and a sort of dull break (not super-crisp). The reset is quite short and a bit soft; not as tactile as you’ll find on many striker-fired pistols. I found the trigger to be very nice when running the gun and, I think, it’s a component that contributes to the easy accuracy.
The frame has a nice, if not very aggressive, texture and it features an accessory rail up front. Note, however, that this is not a picatinny rail and is entirely proprietary. I expect that Sig will release some Sig-specific accessories for this rail in the future. The magazine release is easy to find and use and is reversible for lefties. The pistol comes with a 10-round flush mag and 10-round extended mag (with 12-round mags available).
*Issues
I experienced no issues whatever shooting a few hundred rounds through the Sig P365. That said, there have been many reports of some specific failures and issues from the early purchasers of this pistol. The primary issue reported is that the pistols firing action causes the tip of the striker to drag across the primer (primer smear), often leading to a broken striker where the tip breaks off. As counterpoint to those reports, there are reports from folks who have 10,000+ rounds through theirs with no issues.
As this is not an in-depth review, I can only report on my own limited experience with this pistol. Issues after a first release are in no way uncommon with pistols and what matters most at this point is the manufacturer’s response to them. As you can likely tell, I’m a fan of the gun for a few important reasons. I cannot, however, recommend that anyone use this pistol as their sole personal-protection tool until Sig has a chance to address these post-release issues.
Conclusions
Pros
The P365 has the best size-to-capacity ratio of any subcompact pistol. The trigger and sights are quite good right out of the box. While small, the pistol’s ergonomic design makes it fit comfortably in the hand and the extended magazine allows most folks to get all of their fingers on the grip. For carry, the pistol is small enough to disappear onto your body no matter what carry location you choose. I found it to be easily accurate out to 15 yards, which is plenty for a subcompact.
Cons
The slide-lock lever will painfully abrade your support hand if you take a high, thumb-forward position. Being so small and light, the pistol is rather snappy firing the 9mm round. The P365 seems to have some function and construction issues yet to be worked out by the manufacturer, so it may not right now be the best choice as your only carry gun. Some may find the purchase price to be a bit off-putting.
So for rating the Sig P365…
Ergonomics (****)
For such a small pistol, it’s quite comfortable in the hand. I found the controls easy to reach and use.
Shootability (****)
Definitely a shootable pistol, with its nice trigger action and excellent sights. It’s only detriment is it’s subcompact size.
Accuracy (****)
I found it plenty accurate and easy to get there. Again, sights and trigger are positive contributors here.
Concealability (*****)
The P365 tiny and thin and should be invisible on just about anybody in any carry location.
In Summary
Sig has seemingly done the impossible here; squeezing 11 rounds into a super-tiny striker-fired pistol that is both comfortable and accurate. It’s the kind of thing that most concealed carriers always wish for. I have to believe that this P365 will eventually become a concealed-carry staple for lots of folks.
I’m a Glock guy because I’m a 100%-reliability guy and it’s hard to contemplate replacing my G43 with something other than a Glock, but this little pistol has me seriously considering it. I’m not quite ready to jump yet, as there seem to be some function issues that Sig Sauer needs to address, but once done I am likely on board. I think this little pistol is a gem.
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Nothing is 100% reliable. Every new firearm experiences some growing pains, Glock included. Search Google for Glock striker failure. You will find plenty. The failures on the new P365 represent an extremely small sample size which is typical for any firearm. The Sig P365 is the new game changer and at the forefront of criticism and jealousy. I’m sure engineers of Sig’s competitors are scratching their heads trying go figure out how to rebound. All of the other firearms on the P365 class are certainly good choices, but if you want the most advanced deep carry pistol that performs like a full size you’ll have get yourself a P365 or be left behind.
you are spot on Robery…jealousy and gunshop warriors biased by other brand names. I am ex LEO…own 2 guns..Sig P-320 compact 45 acp and, the new P365…the finest of the fine..simple yet sophisticated..accurate..deadly…
Hello, just want to say that the pistol is awesome. But for that clip it be about 1 inch longer on the mag to have just a little more grip for a 10 round mag
I am looking for first cc gun and have considered the SIG P365 but my major concern is it having a plastic hammer. This does not sound reliable to me. I don’t want a gun I constantly have to take to a gunsmith to repair. Is this common on cc guns?
It doesn’t have a plastic hammer. It uses a striker fired system instead.
The striker is made of tool steel, and Sig has addressed the early striker durability issues with a redesign and quality control.
My P365 trigger is definitely not plastic.
It is steel. I tested it with a magnet.
I would not recommend this gun for any woman. My slide was so stiff, I couldn’t pull it and the magazine spring so tight I couldn’t load it. I sent it back to SigSauer and they said they loosened the slide some (I can now pull it back), but they also said they could only load 7 rounds. I can only load 3. Therefore, this gun is totally useless to me. I have been shooting for many years and own other semi autos. I’m not a weak little woman. Go look at S&W and Glocks.
I’m just a normal guy and I have no trouble cycling the slide with normal technique and can load 10 rounds by hand. the last two rounds a a little tough so I usually use loader.
Trigger is not plastic.
I agree…great little pistol and I use as my everyday carry.
Good write up Andy, I’m also a Glock 43 guy. Main problem is it’s still hard to find a SIG P365 around DFW. I’d love to rent one when they get them at Eagle Gun Range.
Gotcha, Ray. They do have the P365 in the rental fleet at Eagle. I encourage you to rent it!
I wish I had that option before buying mine. I wouldn’t have bought it.
I’ve recently purchased a P365. I’ve got about 250 rounds through it with no FTF or any other malfunctions. The one thing I’ve found is that its one of the most accurate small pistols I’ve ever fired. I’m shooting 1.5″ groups at 7 meters. I’m six foot six with large hands and with the 10 round pinky extension it fits my hands perfectly. My Glock 23 feels like a 2×4 in my hands now. I’m going to use this as my concealed carry piece and I feel perfectly secured with it. It sits in my pocket perfectly, I don’t even need a holster. This is the small weapon I’ve been searching for. I was going to buy a Glock 43 but with the extra rounds, the grip, and the night sights, it fits the bill perfectly. I can’t see myself looking for anything else. I’ve got the gen 2 I guess and and I think they have worked out the kinks as far as I can see. I would strongly recommend this weapon to anyone looking for something small, extremely accurate and reliable. Take it with a grain of salt from a former combat veteran. I love this pistol.
Gun writers who say micro pistol accuracy to 15 yards is enough, I say BS.
There is no limit to ACCURACY, 25 to 50 yards, maybe a 100yards.
No good GUN WRITER would put a limit on the ACCURACY of ANY PISTOL.
Sig have been known for 60+ years for accurate,sturdy, long lasting pistols.
Glocks are very good weapons, not too accurate, loosely put together, which is why they don’t fail often. Tighten Glocks up, they have failures, and become more accurate.
I appreciate your strong opinions, “BulSprig,” though I’m not sure why you’re sharing them with us here regarding this article. No one but you has mentioned any limits. Cheers.
Very well written sir! I’m happy to report I bought a P365 the other day. It is the only weapon I held that melted into my hand. Great feel! I’m glad I read your review a little late since I already bought it but it is still well written.
So, you shoot 100yrds with a subcompact pistol? Oh, 200 yards…you have no limits, my god you are good.
Maybe you are the new John Wick…I bet you do well on a Green Screen…
You should by a rifle…a nice long black AR15.
Pistols are for close encounters and shows you only have pictures of firearms.
The writer did no such limiting…you are CNN kind of Fake News.
This article and the follow up posts convened me to buy one. My Sig Short Swat 556 piston shots well from 1″ to 500meters…love it.
I for one won’t buy Wesson or Colt as they stopped selling weapons to American Confederates during the Civil War.
Leave it to someone to politicize a gun. It is amusing to watch the Trump haters gyrate
Very sad, isn’t it!
The libtards love to HATE & POLITICIZE everything!
I agree. Always a jerk in the Crowd
I mean I don’t think it’s about politics. It’s about being a decent human being. Trump is a human being (Although his hair and skin are pretty out of this world). Also , based on the polls, there have to be a lot of conservatives that don’t like Trump as well.
I believe Tom Partain should go to school so he could write a complete sentence and maybe make sense the next time! Lucky Boy, don’t believe the polls, they said the President had a 2% chance of winning! And I wouldn’t comment on someone else’s hair or skin, even if mine was perfect, it doesn’t have to stay that way, you never know what can happen! I wish people could leave politics off this page, it’s got nothing to do with the way this gun works unless the Gov’t butts into the business with regulations!
Have a nice day and shoot straight AND in the right direction!
I agree. Guns are not a dem vs. rep except in extreme cases. No group is taking guns away who could ever be elected. The only issue is guns buying from crazies who should not have them in the first place.
The guy in question may not shoot as well as he purports but after seeing vids of Keanu Reeves at a gun range, “John Wick” can shoot and shoots damn well.
Great comments. Still laughing…..
Yea, how did that whole Russia b.s. work out for you now? No evidence at all! Still making America great.
Who sold U.S uranium to Russians? Trump? No. Look it up. Who deleted hundreds of conversations from their personal server?
Keegan your the reason there should be a checkpoint st the Potomac
I find it disappointing politics become an issue when we’re supposed to comment on an article about a pistol! Unbelievable!
I guess like most libtards you are not aware that the Confederates were the Democratic Party.
What a great reason NOT to buy a gun. They didn’t sell to traitors 150 years ago. I’m sure they miss your business!
Anyone know where a gun-loving democrat like myself can go on the internet to not be clowned by both the left and right? Really? Confederates and “libtards” are the smartest and most informative people we can rely on to get accurate information about a firearm. People wonder why dems never get to actually engage in gun conversations.
I am currently waiting on my 365XL to arrive at cabelas. I found the slide a touch difficult to rack as I had a stroke in my support hand and was wondering if the spring would loosen up after a few hundred rounds? It’s not a huge deal and I decided against the EZ Slide but it does make for a more enjoyable pistol to shoot.
Thanks guys, and sorry for the rant!
My slide was so stiff, I couldn’t pull it and the magazine spring so tight I couldn’t load it. I sent it back to SigSauer and they loosened the slide some. I can now pull it back. So, call Customer Service and they will tell you how to ship it back.
Not a chance in hell you are going to gun fight at even50 yards let alone 100yds. Sub-compacts are for up close and personal self defense. Be realistic dude.
This is a hard to find firearm at this current time. I have been on a wait list for over two months at my local gun store. I finally found my P365 online at Bass Pro Shop. It was at another location, but they shipped it to my local store in Mesa Az in about 7 days. If you are fortunate enough to live near a Bass Pro or a Cabelas, I would suggest going online. Their current price is $529.
I am extremely happy with my new P365. I put about 200 rounds through it without any problems. The sights are fast and easy to acquire. The accuracy amazed me for a short barrel.
Love this gun. Got on the waiting list shortly after they first came out and I can enthusiastically say this was worth the wait. I paid more for my Shield (by the time you include the apex trigger and night sights) and this gun shoots better and hides easier in my opinion. Not only that, but this gun is slightly smaller in every dimension and only weighs one ounce more fully loaded. I have gone back and forth with CC guns for a long time between easily concealed (Kahr PM9) and capacity (Glock 19). I thought the Shield was a fair compromise but since buying the 365 I haven’t carried anything else. I can definitely say that this gun is work a look…you might just find yourself selling something else to pick this one up.
Thanks for a well-written, informative review. I look forward to shooting the p365 very soon.
I replaced the Glock sights on my Glock 43 with Sig night sites, what a difference in accuracy.
Were they a direct swap?
I am a female shooter with medium hands and short fingers. Currently have a Shield and like it but it moves in my hand and bangs against the basethumb joint no matter how tight my grip with both hands. And many triggers pinch my trigger finger. I’ve handled the P365 and want to rent it this week. Any thoughts and opinions from female shooters.
To difficult.to eject the mag. The release sits at an awkward angle on the grip so if you have a small hand your thumb will need help to release it. I would not feel comfortable using it for my concealed carried. Just purchased yesterday and ready to return it. Sig needs to improve the release before I would repurchase it.
My hands are on the small side and I like my 380s. My preference is the Beretta Tomcat or Bersa Thunder for bith size and weight. Went window shopping for a new handgun and was shown this little jewel. It was comfy in my hands and shot well at the range for a bit. Now is is comfy in my purse.
Valuable post Bob. The use of lasers on handguns gives them an extra edge of efficiency. Lasers can help you with training and practice. Using a laser while doing dry fire practice at the range will provide absolute feedback on the quality of your trigger presses. If you see your laser dot move down and left (for right-handed shooters), you’ve got some work to do on your trigger press. Lasers obviously help you with lowlight shooting. They also support our instinct to focus on the threat.
They also telegraph your punch, something no same person does in any conflict.
Great review Andy. I am a big fan of semi-auto pistols. There are so many advantages of choosing a pistol over an old-fashioned revolver. There’s less recoil and the triggers are easier to manipulate. Semi-autos are now more reliable than ever and no more prone to malfunction and failure than the average wheel gun. And, most importantly, semi-autos have two to three times the ammo capacity of a revolver of equal size and weight.
I just bought a Sig P365 and love this little pistol. I fired 250 rounds through it to break it in and had only one jam after 200 rounds, which I attributed to a dirty pistol. It shot great. I was amazed at its accuracy. I dinged a 15 inch plate repeatedly from 25 yards, the length of my pistol berm. Control was excellent. The pistol would just jump with muzzle rise, and then come right back on target, with no twisting in the hand. The abrasive grip helps with that. The green glow sights are very easy to see, even in the dark. My last shots with the pistol, even after the one jam, was my reliability drill to see if the pistol is reliable. I emptied two 10-round magazines as fast as I could, with no jams, after firing 225 rounds through the pistol. I have another same-size pocket pistol of a different brand that holds only 6 rounds, and my new Sig pistol handles much better than it. Also, my new Sig disappears in my pocket with very little profile, carrying 21 rounds of 9mm without anyone knowing about it.
FROM A VERY EARLY P-365 SHOOTER: I have broken two extractors and a striker on the rental P 365s. Before that, the first rental P-365 was ripping the rims off of the spent casings. No surprise that part broke first! It seems the 3rd time is not the charm for the P 365. I would hazard to guess I have put 10x more ammo down range with this pistol, than almost anyone else, except the reviewer. I do have a Glock 43 with Tru Glo fiber & tritium with the orange highlighted front sight, and Talon grips. I love it! In fact, I think I’ll stick with that Glock 43, until late 2019 or so, when Sig Sauer USA might actually get this little gun sorted out, and the demand for it slows down, or stops. I have moved on to “garbage dump” magazines with the Glock 43, and it just works, with any ammo. “Garbage dump” mags are loaded with random stray 9mm rounds picked out of the bottoms of range bags, drawers, boxes, and even off the ground from shooting ranges. If my 82 year old mother can shoot the Glock 43, I can’t really make any claims for it handing better or worse than the Sig Sauer P 365. Glock’s plastic sights & triggers are a sick tired very old joke, and Glocks are overpriced, but they do seem to be insanely reliable guns, and they are not all that inaccurate, either, unless you are Bob Munden, and he is dead. I have broken the rental P-365s THRICE (3x) now! The range generally insists customers buy “their ammo” (at an inflated price), using the excuse that they don’t want any reloads or steel cased ammo used. It’s a valid point, so I bring in factory sealed case cartons of 1000 rounds (or more) of brass cased (usually 124 grain NATO, {sometimes 124 or 115 grain std pressure}) always brand name ammo. I shoot “MY” other 9s during my visits, so I am not cooking off rounds, destroying plastic guide rods, blistering my hands, or burning myself. The first broken P-365 parts: Extractors (2). Second broken P 365 part: Striker (1). The striker firing pin drags on the primers. The striker spring or something is dragging on the magazines too!. The extractor was ripping up casings. Sig fixed that, but Sig needs to further dial in the timing on these! It’s like balancing recoil springs, hammer mainsprings, sear springs, trigger return springs, & (sometimes) extractor springs in a 1911, a Bronwing Hi Power, or a CZ 75, etc. The only problem is, everyone has gone to those captive dual or triple spring recoil assemblies now. That feature makes it much tricker to deal with, from a manufacturing perspective. I’d guess Sig Sauer will allow these “iffy” parts to remain until they break, hoping no one puts cases of ammo through their P 365. My daily carry has been a German made Sig P228R, for many years. It gets a new spring pack every 5000-7000 rounds or so. It gets new Sig Light night sights every 10 years or so, and a new Sig barrel after about 25,000 rounds. Slides can, and do crack between 28,000 and 40,000 rounds. The same is true with the internal bolt stamped slide German made Sig P226s. Until 2019, I am just not buying this gun, despite actually, really wanting to own one, or even two. Sig Sauer USA will sort this one out! I am just not big on mailing my guns back and forth in the meantime. At least Charter Arms pays postage both ways. I was hoping the Sig Sauer P-365 would become my new belly band backup gun to the Sig P228R, but it’s just not there quite yet. It will happen! The P228R will become a P229R on it’s next rebuild. I sincerely hope, eventually, the P-365 will come to have such a life and lifespan as the P226, P228, P226R, P228R, P229, & P229R, P220, P225 etc. pistols. In general, +P 9mm, does not have enough burn time in such a short barrel as the P-365 or the G43 to make a huge difference. There is definitely a difference, but it is only marginal for the target. It more negatively affects the shooter, and the gun, than it does anything else. By the way: I have shot DAO revolvers since the late 1970s, so, mushy striker triggers are not really any type of a major issue, but the Sig P-365 definitively beats the Glock in this category. The P-365 has the same exact texture as the P22X’s “Elite Grips”, which I installed on my P228s & P226s when Sig USA discontinued their “Elite” series for the Legion series, or some other thing. THE P-365 GRIPS ARE A WINNER! The G43 did like to shift around in my hands in extreme cold weather, wet weather, or with sweaty hands. Talon grips fixed that, for under $20. Kudos to Sig Sauer for not using plastic sights, using the elite texture grips, and having a very good trigger! If anyone wants to know how the military selected the P-320, go onto a German server, and look up “Sig Sauer Gmbh illegal arms trafficking”. This incident happened back during the Obama era, while Hillary was secretary of state. Apparently she can send free guns to Syria, using your tax dollars, to funnel them there through Sig Sauer USA, but she doesn’t want “us” to have any guns, in the USA, at all. A couple years later, after all the evidence was stolen from German evidence lockers, and surprise surprise, the US military gives Sig that fat juicy lucrative pistol contract. You might want to try using “Opera” for a browser, to find that story. I don’t often part with a Sig or a Sig Sauer, or even the old J.P. Sauer (Hawes) revolvers, but the P-320 was an exception. Maybe later on that one too. Maybe NOT! So, in that respect, I must conclusively, and whole heartedly agree with the reviewer, on not relying on this gun for a sole carry gun. I very much like Sig Sauer, just not this one, (not yet). After Glock gens, 1,2 & 4, I am a bit leery of new gen Glocks, so I am not putting myself on the waiting lists for any brand new Sig Sauer USA designs.
Very informative write up. 👍
Just picked one up. I’m a SIG guy, and my primary is a well used 228. The little pistol shoots well, and handles HP’s nicely. I’m big, so the recoil ain’t too bad. Sights will take a little getting used to, although they are nice to use. I wuz using a 938 as a pocket gun, but might switch to this as an IWB instead. Pricey, but SIGS are. You get what you pay for. Got lot’s of ’em. Have fun kids.
I am a Sig fanboy and recently acquired a P365. For reference, I was a competitive shooter and am a pistol instructor. I like the P365 BUT this is my first striker fired handgun AND I am super sensitive about accidential discharges (NRA Safety drilled into my head) – personally, I see no way to be comfortable carrying a round in the chamber. I carry a P239 EDC and am considering getting ba P224 but I NEED a small sub-compact without a slotted trigger safety – the P365 has too good a trigger and is not double action – meaning an accidential dischage is more likely – for now, I’ll carry Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine, hammer down. I love to read responses.
Hey Michael,
This is my concern. Yes this is the 1st striker fired pistol in this size, caliber, and capacity. Keltec and a couple others offer this in a hammer fired version. The hammer fired and 8 to 9 lb trigger. For me this affects my accuracy too much. I do like the safety feature.
On to the “NRA safety 1st” thing, I feel the same, I have never carried with one in the pipe, until I see the speed of some of the assaults, and have now tried and own a Kahr CM 9.
I love this little gun! It’s a striker fired gun I have dropped a few times from about 3 to 4 feet and on the pavement. I pick it up and keep going. This was from using a loose fitting pocket holster. I have now moved on to Kydex and IWB appendix carry.
With the long smooth trigger I feel comfortable caring this hot and ready to fire. I would love to see Kahr come out with a gun in this capacity.
If the Sig has a comparable trigger to the Kahr, I would definitely get one, I just don’t want to see a super short 5 lb trigger and risk myself to the ND issues I have seen glock owners get surprised with.
Thinking pay attention when bolstering the gun etc, but life is life and it only takes once, especially in appendix carry.
Anyone have a comparison to those two triggers? Kahr, you listening, looking here?
Dropped a few times??? WOW! That’s scary!
Son,
After 46 years as a full time instructor with 25 a t the state police academy, it pains me to hear someone use the term “accidental” discharge. The fact is that there are no “accidental” discharges only NEGLIGENT discharges.
Amen to negligent people! Retired LE too. Stay safe.
Poli Viejo
Charlie, agree completely with the negligent discharge. I served as a Dept. Range officer for quite a while and it was “never” an accident when a gun discharged. Carelessness on the part of the operator was paramount! On another note I always have a round in the chamber. Getting into a scrap with an empty chamber will almost all the time get you in a world of sh–. The safety is between your ears. Practice until this becomes second nature.
I just bought my 365 which had a build date of August 5. I took it to the range 50 rounds mag tech 124 jhp and followed up with 100 rounds federal 115 fmj. I did not clean the weapon before firing. I have heard so much BS on the internet I was expecting it to malfunction. The next day took it out and fired 50 Federal HST 124 JHP and followed up with a 100 more federal fmj. This gun shot awesome it Is so accurate!! I own a 43 a Shield an XDS 3.3 and a Glock 26. I feel comfortable carrying the P365 as my EDC. Also have 2 12 round mags coming. Love It
I’ve had my p365 for about 5 months and have had zero issues. Most recently I attended the Costa Ludus handgun training at the Red River Range and put almost 2000 rounds through the gun in 2 days, again, not a single failure; amazing little pistol. The Costa class was also very, very good; highly recommend, even for seasoned shooters.
when are you going to fix the firing pin drag? bought mine in October and some of the sig ammo. the drag is terrible. seen 2 built in nov 2018 not as bad but mine built 1 month earlier eats up my brass. really worried about trusting this pistol . all lives matter………
Just got a Sig p365 three weeks ago put 200 rounds down range with it no failures to feed cycle or eject able to hit 12 inch paper plate 7 out of 10 rounds at 15 yards with 3 missing by 2 to 3 inches could not do this with my SCCY or my G2c after hundreds of rounds the Sig is very accurate for a 3 inch barreled gun but l could be wrong but l believe the trigger on mine is metal at least it feels like metal he did say it was plastic in the review didn’t he the trigger and reset is very nice on it so far very happy with it
A well done article with one small point to be corrected- the trigger is steel, not plastic.
So I have an issue shooting my Glock43 and I am wondering if it will be the same with the Sig P365. I do not have “large hands but I miss low and left with my 43. Range guy says I am over gripping and forcing my shots low left. My though is that if I have to think about my grip that much I have the wrong gun in my hand. I have a Glock 23 that I shoot very well. Do you think I will have the same issues with this one?
Chad,
Right-handers shooting low left is simply a symptom of poor mechanics. You’re anticipating the shot and trying to compensate for the recoil before you break the shot. Spend 10x as many “shots” in dry-fire training at home as you do in live-fire training at the range. Moreover, at the range put dummy rounds in my magazines (randomly) and observe the jerk/dip when you hit the dummy round. Every trigger press should be with a still gun. There are no other remedies. Have at it.
Right handed low and left = trigger jerk. Grop slightly tighter with off hand and sqeeeeze the trigger.
Nice gun but why is the slide not marked SigSauer? It only has the numbers 635 and no marking to say what the slide is? All Sig handguns are marked on the front of the slide! It’s like buying a BMW without the logo attached ? Who makes the slide that Sig would not put their name on it? For the price I feel cheated!
If you feel cheated because it doesn’t say the brand name on the slide then you bought it for the wrong reasons. I bet they know you well at the salon.
I bought one, fired ~ 400 rounds, no failures. Very comfortable to shoot, hit as well as with my Walther PPQ, a much larger pistol.
Bought a second one for backup; the first right hand side in a Raven Concealment Vanguard 2, the second left hand front pocket in a De Santis pocket holster.
Bought 4 12 round mags, the pistol is easily concealed even so. 2 in the guns, 2 on the belt can easily be carried and concealed. Or, you can skip the spare mags. I’d rather have 2 full 365s than one with a spare mag.
The 2 guns and mags are very light and easily carried – more comfortable together than my PPQ w/light and spare mags, and very reliably concealed.
Trigger is light and easily managed. If you carry one in the chamber, then be sure to use a holster that securely covers the trigger guard.
Good write up. I own a P365, as well as, a P365 XL. Sig redesigned the striker and striker channel last year to address the striker breakage issue. They made the tip of the striker more robust and changed the cut of the striker channel to accommodate it. The update did not get rid of the striker drag though. I believe this is more of an issue with the size of the gun than a design flaw. Several manufacturers have designed subcompact and micro 9mm pistols that have striker drag primarily due to the short cycling time of the small guns. I’ve even seen striker drag on spent casings from Glock 43s. Nothing against Glocks, the are good guns. The P365 XL does have a little bit of striker drag, though it is much less noticeable than the regular P365. Also, the trigger on the P365 is actually metal.
Got my son the BB gun version of this made by Sig themselves…. very cool.
Ha! Got one for myself
I like mine I just bought but dang I am struggling to load the mags.
I have yet to get one more than half full.
8,10 and 12 round
Any help appreciated
I’ll add that the first one is tough but the 2nd is harder
I spoke to sig today about how hard the mag was to load. They told me the mag spring was designed heavy to last longer than normal! And suggested that I leave the mag loaded, they said it would weaken some over time!
Duh!! I never thought of that! My dealer told me that sig customer service was tops, basically they said “you bought it , you’re stuck with it!!
Very unhappy with that answer!
The spring will loosen up a bit eventually, but what you need is a Maglula upLULA mag loading tool.
They make loading mags an easy task.
It will keep your thumbs blister free during high rd count classes or range sessions.
You can find them at online retailers or possibly at your local shop for $28-35, and they’re well worth it.
I would like to comment on my new p365. My accuracy improved I would say25% over my walther ppx and my ruger sr9c just by picking up the gun. I’m a small guy and this is perfect size for my hand.I am very pleased with this gun. happy with sites, size, weight, capacity, and to me most importantly ACCURACY for me. I trust its reliability after all its a sig.
I have an old P226. Never had any troubles with it, is a super great pistol!
I’ve shot my P365 at 50yds. many times and find it to be one of the most accurate hand guns I’ve ever shot. To me the fit makes it an extension of your hand making it easy to be as accurate as it is !!
I also found my P365 to be one of the best CCW on the market !!
I just read this Andy Rutledge article on the Sig Sauer 365 sub compact and am comparing to the Ruger Max 9 12+1. It is now 8/14/21 and the mention of the 356’s issues are 2 years old. I am curious if anyone knows whether they have been addressed?
I carry and love this gun. Like you, I had a bit of a grip problem at first firing, but easily adjusted. I have recommended this little gun to other women looking for a good conceal gun.
Thank you for your review.